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Offline Jim Koschnick

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stringer construction
« on: February 15, 2016, 09:20:18 PM »
Hello I recently acquired a 1983 American Skier upon examination i noticed stringer cavity is hollow with the exception of a small amount of rotted plywood shavings .does anybody know how this boat was origionally built  and if this is a problem what is the best way to fix it ? Thanks  Jim K

Offline Mike Harry

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 06:55:53 AM »
Im no expert and I know Ron Tanis will chime in, I think the stringers were fur but Im not certain. I have never heard of NOTHING being in the stingers place. I have heard several times about rot, but never that a stringer or stringers were missing.

Posting a picture of what you have would greatly help us (Ron) help you.

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 07:34:27 AM »
Early model A/S boats made in Opa Locka Fl. were made with plywood stringers, this was a carry-over from the off-shore race boat method of building during the 70's. The plywood was marine grade plywood, and yes it does rot and can be replaced. The good news is that like the off-shore race boats that preceded A/S the heavy 24 oz. woven roving laminates were so heavy they could support the structure with or without the wood core! Unfortunately the the wood floors also used back then would also rot and the proper thing to do is to replace the floors and stringer cores. If you noticed the addition of certain Fiberglass supplies recently added to the Parts Site it is because I am "walking" Doug Rex up in Michigan through this exact process! The same materials used in my shop are now available for this repair, and instructions are being written for the procedure. There are right ways and wrong ways to do this, and the wrong way is to simply cut the old stringers out and grind down the entire hull and start over. (this only works if you can put the hull back into the original mold to hold the shape, otherwise you will deform the hull)
Fir stringers came around 1983 or 1984?  1985-1991 for sure, 1992 WESMAR started experimenting with nida-core, 1996+ were structural foam cores.
The bulk of the A/S boats have Fir or some type of composite stringers

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 03:59:28 PM »
Mike and Ron thanks for taking the time to reply to my post  I guess regardless of how the stringer cavity ended up like that I still need to address the problem otherwise I will have nothing to screw my floor into I was considering removing the tops off of the stringer cavity removing any bolts that go through  the stringers  cleaning out the stringer cavity  and replacing with marine plywood that was treated with thinned resin followed  by fiberglass the stringers refoam the hull and replace the floor I am pushing to complete this project so any advise is appreciated and it would only make sense that I order the material from  this site seeing that you already know what I need.

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 09:03:08 AM »
Best to give me a call so i can coach you through this, Doug in Mich is half way through his and its going well.
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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 11:20:44 AM »
Jim, i thought i would share some photos of my stringer project. My boat is a 1982, Thanks to Ron i thought i would attempt it, not a bad job just time consuming, Ron has everything you need to complete this job. If you have any questions please feel free to call or e-mail 989-387-5285

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 05:14:02 PM »
Doug thanks for the pictures  i am in the process of removing the old material from the  stringers now  one question is the plywood you are using 3/4 or 1/2  the reason I ask is 3/4 seems a little tight!

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 05:35:43 PM »
 Jim, I bought 3/4 then ran it through a planer to 5/8, 2 coats of resin on each side then used rubber mallet to get stringers seated. my first try was full 3/4 and 2 coats of resin, it would not bottom out, if you can buy 5/8 then that's what I would do. resin adds a lot of thickness.

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 07:23:23 AM »
Another method would be to use the 1/2" Marine Plywood, then after the stringer is primed with resin do a fit test and add as needed CSM (chopped strand mat) fiberglass to the stringer, ultimately you want the stringer to "fall-in" to the stringer cavity that has catalyzed resin in the bottom, and as the stringer is pushed down the resin will be forced to come up the sides. You want complete resin saturation between the stringer and stringer cavity. Clamp and let cure.

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Re: stringer construction
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 05:38:24 PM »
I found 5/8  fir marine plywood locally thanks for the advice !