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Offline PaulM

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!988 Advance Windshield Story
« on: January 02, 2012, 09:51:57 PM »
Memorial Day weekend 2011, I visited my indoor boat storage facility to retrieve my 1988 American Skier Advance.  I removed the canvas boat cover to find a bazillion pieces of broken glass adorning the floor of the Skier.  For an unknown reason, the factory-original tempered glass windshield had shattered. 

Not knowing what to do, I searched the web looking for Skier windshields, finding Dan T.  A telephone conversation with Dan T informed me American Skier windshields were virtually unavailable, with a suggestion to call Ron T.  I called Ron T and learned of this amskierboats website, in addition to some other valuable windshield information. 

The original 1988 Advance windshield apparently was a curved-tempered piece of 5/16” glass.  It was manufactured by a company with the tradename “Water Bonnet”.  This Water Bonnet company had apparently fallen on hard times several years ago and was purchased by another company. 

I attempted to contact the successor company many times to determine if they would reproduce a Skier windshield.  I was willing to underwrite the cost of a production run, if the company had interest.  Unfortunately, I was shuffled between various departments, persons, and manufacturing facilities.  After hours of unsuccessful contacts and waiting on the telephone line, I gave up.  In my opinion, windshield manufacturers aren’t interested in servicing the replacement market, period!!

Several persons suggested I just forget about a glass windshield, and replace it with an acrylic or polycarbonate unit cut to size.  I found another 88 Skier owner that had replaced his tempered glass windshield with a plastic one.  It was an acceptable alternative, but had neither the optical properties nor the strength of the original tempered glass. 

Researching the web, I found the website of a marine replacement glass manufacturer in Florida claiming to reproduce vintage boat and custom tempered glass.  I contacted the owner, who stated he would reproduce my windshield for $600, if I sent him the original windshield frame for a pattern.  He stated his turnaround time was two weeks ARO.  I removed my windshield frame from the Skier, carefully packaged it, and apprehensively sent it to Florida. 

After two weeks, I contacted the marine windshield shop, only to find they had received my windshield frames, but hadn’t started work.  After a few more calls in the ensuing weeks (burning mid-summer ski time!!), I was pleased to find they had completed the work and were ready to ship.  The total cost now came to $800, as a $200 shipping container with associated freight costs, were required. 

Approximately six weeks after the initial shipment, my new windshield arrived in the original framing, crated well.  Out of curiosity, I removed the windshield from the framing, to find it was ¼” flat tempered glass.  Note : I do not recommend one removing glass from frames though.  If it looks good, leave it! 

I reassembled the new windshield to the frames and installed it on the Skier with few problems.  It looks very good.  Note : even though the replacement ¼” glass is flat, the bent windshield frames curve it into the normal windshield profile.  In my opinion, only a discerning person knowledgeable of American Skier boat windshields would know the difference.  I look forward, with trepidation, to see how my $800 windshield performs. 

The items to note are my original American Skier 1988 Advance windshield was made with 5/16” curved tempered glass.  The replacement windshield was made of thinner ¼” flat tempered glass.  The replacement manufacturer needed over double the promised turn-around time.  The shipping cost of the replacement glass is a significant cost.  After ½ season with the “new” glass, I’m a little less richer, but currently satisfied. 

The information presented above is informational only, as I neither endorse, nor disparage, any manufacturer listed above.  I am merely one of those many skiers desiring to hang onto a rope behind an American Skier….............

Offline Pelvic Woo

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Re: !988 Advance Windshield Story
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 08:09:23 AM »
I too had the misfortune of experiencing a broken windshield on my '88 Advance.  Unfortunately, I had no one to blame but myself.  I took the boat to the local automotive glass shop right down the street.  They ordered a piece of tempered glass (flat), and in three days I had a new windshield.  I hear they had a rough time getting the glass in the frame - the frame does bend it into shape.  But, I can't tell the difference from original.  Here's the great part and not to rub it in but, they only charged me $50.
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Re: !988 Advance Windshield Story
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 08:22:36 AM »
I've read & understand the issues stated above & it is a problem. The only thing I don't recall is the glass thickness, I recall the OEM was 3/16" thick not 5/16. I can confirm that the original Water Bonnet tempered glass was flat then bowed by the frame & this stress is what caused pre-mature & unexplained failures, subsequent vendors supplied curved safety glass that was not under stress all the time & they were much better.
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Re: !988 Advance Windshield Story
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 09:10:01 AM »
RonT is right on the glass thicknesses.  Sorry on the incorrect glass thicknesses mentioned in the initial posting.  The 1988 Water Bonnet glass was 3/16" thick and the replacement flat tempered glass was 1/8".

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