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Offline Arne3680

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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2013, 01:18:07 PM »
I checked the contactpoint on the distributie.
The gap was .030" and should be .043
I changed that, and it started right away!
Going to try again tomorrow. Lets hope she starts right away!

The plugs I have are champions. Going to check the gap tomorriw or later this week.
I will let you know!

Thanks!
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2013, 05:52:05 AM »
I checked the contactpoint on the distributie.
The gap was .030" and should be .043
I changed that, and it started right away!
Going to try again tomorrow. Lets hope she starts right away!

The plugs I have are champions. Going to check the gap tomorriw or later this week.
I will let you know!

Thanks!

Arne,
By contact point, I assume you're talking about the point gap itself?
That should be .018". A gap of .043 is way too much. Please confirm.
When people run down to the lake to see what is making that noise, you've succeeded.

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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2013, 06:21:17 AM »
I checked the contactpoint on the distributie.
The gap was .030" and should be .043
I changed that, and it started right away!
Going to try again tomorrow. Lets hope she starts right away!

The plugs I have are champions. Going to check the gap tomorriw or later this week.
I will let you know!

Thanks!

Arne,
By contact point, I assume you're talking about the point gap itself?
That should be .018". A gap of .043 is way too much. Please confirm.

Yes ofcourse.
I am terrible sorry, I was talking in mm.
I set it to .43 mm what the Same is as .019 inch.
Hope the prolem is solved. Going to start again today or tomorrow.
An electric choke comes at the end of the season or next season.
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2013, 08:06:29 AM »
I checked the contactpoint on the distributie.
The gap was .030" and should be .043
I changed that, and it started right away!
Going to try again tomorrow. Lets hope she starts right away!

The plugs I have are champions. Going to check the gap tomorriw or later this week.
I will let you know!

Thanks!

Arne,
By contact point, I assume you're talking about the point gap itself?
That should be .018". A gap of .043 is way too much. Please confirm.

Yes ofcourse.
I am terrible sorry, I was talking in mm.
I set it to .43 mm what the Same is as .019 inch.
Hope the prolem is solved. Going to start again today or tomorrow.
An electric choke comes at the end of the season or next season.

Oh OK. That makes much more sense. Yes, your point gap was way too close then originally. I'm surprised that it ran at all with a gap like that. That should make a huge difference. If you changed the point gap, I would also recheck the timing as that has surely changed now also.

I think the preferred plug would still be an Autolite but the Champion should be fine. Verify that gap is at .035" and you should be in much better shape.

Keep us updated and nice job finding the issue and getting it fixed. Even with the slight language barrier.  ;) ;) ;) ;)

When people run down to the lake to see what is making that noise, you've succeeded.

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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2013, 08:27:26 AM »
Arne,  Not sure if this was covered already, but here goes...  Replace the points & condenser with electronic ignition.  Costs around $125 (US) and fits right inside the distributor.  No more points to mess with and the boat will start & run SOOOOOOO much better  :)  Its probably the BEST performance modification you can do, not difficult at all, and the best bang for the buck!!

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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 10:40:09 AM »
I checked the contactpoint on the distributie.
The gap was .030" and should be .043
I changed that, and it started right away!
Going to try again tomorrow. Lets hope she starts right away!

The plugs I have are champions. Going to check the gap tomorriw or later this week.
I will let you know!

Thanks!

Arne,
By contact point, I assume you're talking about the point gap itself?
That should be .018". A gap of .043 is way too much. Please confirm.

Yes ofcourse.
I am terrible sorry, I was talking in mm.
I set it to .43 mm what the Same is as .019 inch.
Hope the prolem is solved. Going to start again today or tomorrow.
An electric choke comes at the end of the season or next season.

Oh OK. That makes much more sense. Yes, your point gap was way too close then originally. I'm surprised that it ran at all with a gap like that. That should make a huge difference. If you changed the point gap, I would also recheck the timing as that has surely changed now also.

I think the preferred plug would still be an Autolite but the Champion should be fine. Verify that gap is at .035" and you should be in much better shape.

Keep us updated and nice job finding the issue and getting it fixed. Even with the slight language barrier.  ;) ;) ;) ;)

I am going to try again tomorrow.
I will check the timing. Do I have to do this when hot or cold?
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2013, 11:19:23 AM »
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2013, 11:27:23 AM »
ok, thanks
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2013, 01:58:22 AM »
Yesterday I fired it up for the last time this season.
Once it started and the engine was hot, it ran really nice.

But when I started it, there was some black smoke from the back.
That's a bad thing, isn't it?

Before I start next season, I'm going to replace the spark plugs and the wiring to the plugs. Replace the condenser and the contacts or place an elactronic one.
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2013, 07:50:35 AM »
Black smoke is the least concerning color, means its rich & this can be adjusted or fixed much easier than blue smoke.

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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2013, 11:08:20 AM »
Black smoke is the least concerning color, means its rich & this can be adjusted or fixed much easier than blue smoke.

Blue smoke means its using oil? Than it would also smoke during the ride?
Going to look some things up for spare parts for next year.
Like new wiring, sparks and an electronic ignition.
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Re: Cold start problem
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 02:01:35 PM »
Constant Blue would indicate ring issues, blue only at start up is usually from some oil seeping into the cylinder when off, & burning off as soon as started.