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General Category => General American Skier Discussions => Topic started by: MIskier on December 07, 2011, 07:25:51 PM

Title: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: MIskier on December 07, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
Decent looking '86 in Altanta, GA

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Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Smitty on December 09, 2011, 05:36:15 PM
This is an open debate on the MC website. 

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=44920&highlight=American+Skier (http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=44920&highlight=American+Skier)
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: MIskier on December 09, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
Yeah I was part of the discussion, I figured that I would post the add here as well.
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Joel on December 10, 2011, 02:49:54 PM
One post mentioned that an AS forum would probably only have THREE members...   Well, were working on fixing that!  But my point is Id much rather own a classic AS boat that not too many other people have than a carbon copy MC that EVERYONE has if they dont have a carbon copy CC...   just sayin   ;)
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: phil on December 11, 2011, 06:58:12 AM
Thanks for sharing that. It's true, we are an EXCLUSIVE group.   :)
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Pelvic Woo on December 12, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Reading that thread got me all fired up!  Anybody know where they have their reunion?...we should totally crash!
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Joel on December 13, 2011, 02:55:07 PM
I like the way you think.... like a criminal... but with slightly less legal issues   :)
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: RonT on December 15, 2011, 07:42:34 AM
Interesting discussions on the M/C site. My experience over the years is that boat owners become very partial to their brand, much like cars, if you have a good experience with one you tend to return for another. I just happen to know the difference on how the various ski boats were built, yes M/C did have molded glass stringers years before A/S did, but the true test is in the long term test.  M/C was comfortable with a molded stringer/floor "pan" that was "blind-bonded" to the hull then flotation foam adds the needed rigidity. I knew that blind joints leave many opportunities on the production floor for human error, some may be perfect, others not, since it's blind, inspections by a floor supervisor are impossible. I also don't believe in using flotation foam as a structural member knowing it will deteriorate. All A/S boats were designed to be structurally sound without flotation foam, then the foam is added to meet requirements and as an added benefit it also adds additional rigidity. Another difference was that A/S was using clear Fir boards, not pine or plywood as was common with the others which does deteriorate much sooner. The reason most ski boat owners get P-O'd with rotten stringers was that their motors were lag bolted to the stringers. moisture  enters, and soon the lag blots are stripped & won't hold the engine down. Repair shops will now tell you that the stringers need to be replaced (as soon a 10 years from date built) A/S has always used a through bolted aluminium engine bed that uses no lag bolts to strip out. All that said no boat is perfect, including A/S, there is always room for improvement. This past month I have been doing some engineering  for brand xxx ski boat, & in the process required drilling into the stringer....plywood stringers...2012 model! We know the facts, there is a forum, has been a reunion & will be more to come. My parting comment: If M/C were to close the doors tomorrow, how many executives would be around 10,15,20 years later to offer support for the boats they built??   
Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Midskier on December 15, 2011, 10:42:37 AM
how many executives would be around 10,15,20 years later to offer support for the boats they built??

I know how many  :)

MC CC and BU all have active forums, each has provided several good bits of information, and all have several loyal owners.

I tune out when the bashing begins, I've skied them, worked on them, and have owned several non amskiers as well
each one may have something  better than the other however the amskier still brings the MOST to the lake every time.

Dan T

Title: Re: '86 Advance in Atlanta 3500
Post by: Joel on December 15, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
DAMN!!!   Dan beat me to it...!!!  The answer is  ZERO...  NADDA...  ZILCH...!!!!    :o

And, we all appreciate you guys sticking around more than you'll ever know!!!     ;D